Rob Poe, The Broccoli Rob Show

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Part I – Rob Poe, The Broccoli Rob Show
Robert Poe a.k.a. Broccoli Rob is an accomplished singer and songwriter from New York, voted ABC Radio Network’s Best New Unsigned Artist. He has been on radio, television and performed throughout the U.S.A as well as Europe.

Throughout most of his life Robert had struggled with symptoms from an autoimmune disease. While trying to combat the disease he visited numerous doctors and could not find a cure. While researching nutritional approaches for healing he found that by changing what we eat we can cure many diseases that are common to us. So, by eating a diet consisting of more high nutrient foods and eliminating junk food he was able to rid himself of the disease without medication.

This top-notch performer and Super Veggie Hero is an avid health and fitness enthusiast with a passion for healthy eating and an unwavering dedication to promoting the importance of eating more fruits and vegetables for good health.

He hits the stage like a force of nature, educating, motivating and inspiring with his high energy style, original lyrics and feats of strength.

Through music, education and play he demonstrates the mental, physical and emotional benefits of eating healthy in a way that children can easily embrace, adopt and get excited about.

The show is designed for grades K-5 and is usually 40 minutes long but can be altered to suit your needs. Robert is available for school assemblies, libraries, outdoor festivals, camps and other personal appearances.

TRANSCRIPTION:

Caryn Hartglass: Hello everybody, I’m Caryn Hartglass, you’re listening to It’s All About Food. Thank you so much for joining me today.  It’s August 6, 2013, a lovely summer day.  <singing> The summer winds came blowing in from across the sea. <end singing>  I’m forgetting the words already.  Have you heard that song recently?  I’ll tell you where you’ve heard it.  If you’ve been paying attention to what I’ve been telling you, and that is the new Swingin’ Gourmets, the Making of the Swingin’ Gourmets, our documentary food show, the real American barbeque, we sing that at the end, and I don’t mess up the words like I just did just now.  Anyway, I’m hoping that if you haven’t seen it you check it out.  It’s 28 minutes, go to SwinginGourmets.com.

Right?  Okay, this is going to be fun.  I’ve been looking forward to this for a long time, and I’m surprised that I haven’t had this guest on the show earlier than today, but I’ve got Rob Poe here in the studio with me.  And he’s known as Broccoli Rob.  He’s an accomplished singer and songwriter from New York.  Voted ABC Radio Network’s Best New Unsigned Artist.  He’s been on radio, television and performed throughout the USA as well as Europe.  And we’re going to learn a lot more about Rob (and Broccoli Rob) right now.  So, welcome!

Rob Poe:  Thank you, thank you Caryn.  It’s great to be here.  I’ve got to get closer to the mic over here.

Caryn Hartglass:  Yeah, okay, so welcome to It’s All About Food.

Rob Poe: Thank you, thank you. Great to be here.

Caryn Hartglass: Great, okay.

Rob Poe: I brought my guitar, just in case you want to hear a little music later.

Caryn Hartglass: Yes, we do, we’re going to check into that in a little bit, but first we need to know about you. So let’s just jump into the serious stuff and then we’ll lighten it up a little bit.  My understanding is you had a health crisis of your own and somehow food came to your rescue, can you tell us a little bit about that.

Rob Poe: That’s right.  I was… Actually, my dad was sick.  My dad had lung cancer and I was trying to find help for my dad.  And I called a mutual acquaintance.

Caryn Hartglass: <laughter>

Rob Poe: His name is Barry Hartglass.

Caryn Hartglass:  That’s my brother.  You know, I don’t know if you noticed the musical intro when we came into the show but that was composed and played by my wonderful talented musician brother.

Rob Poe: Yes, very talented.  Very talented musician.  And I gave him a call and he said “Talk to Caryn. Give Caryn a call.  She has so much information about health/getting well.” And you recommended a book, and I read the book, it was called Eat to Live by Dr. Joel Fuhrman.  I read the book.  I followed his diet.  Well, actually, I’m getting ahead of myself.  It was actually my dad had passed away probably two days before I read the book.

Caryn Hartglass:  Oh. Yeah.

Rob Poe: And so, but the book made so much sense to me, and I started reading the book and following the diet religiously, and I started feeling fantastic.  I felt really, really good.  And I wasn’t even aware that I had an autoimmune disease. And so I went to the doctor for a physical and he said, “Your blood tests resemble rheumatoid arthritis, lupus.”

Caryn Hartglass:  Wow

Rob Poe:  So he sent me to a whole bunch of doctors and they all wanted me on prednisone steroids.

Caryn Hartglass: You didn’t have any symptoms?

Rob Poe:  I did.

Caryn Hartglass:  Okay.

Rob Poe: But I thought that’s how people felt.

Caryn Hartglass: That’s just “getting old stuff”.

Rob Poe: That’s just getting older.

Caryn Hartglass: So what did you have?  You have some..

Rob Poe: Aching joints, feeling tired all the time, rashes on my body, a number of things.

Caryn Hartglass:  It’s amazing what we accept as normal.

Rob Poe: Yes

Caryn Hartglass:  I love to say this but most of us don’t know how good we can feel.

Rob Poe: Exactly.

Caryn Hartglass:  We just don’t know.

Rob Poe: That’s right.  I didn’t know until I started eating fruits and vegetables, high micronutrient foods, following the diet in that book, and I felt better than I ever did in my life.

Caryn Hartglass: Well, everybody knows I’m a big fan of Dr. Joel Fuhrman. He’s been on this program before and he’s a dear friend, and I think he’s a great, great man. And he’s brilliant.  Other than that… <laughs>.

Rob Poe: And mind you, I…

Caryn Hartglass: But I want to say that many people read his book, and it’s been on the New York Times bestseller list now for, I don’t know, 100 weeks plus or something, which is great, and long in coming.  But there have been a number of naysayers and people that have said it’s too rigid, it’s too hard.

Rob Poe: Well, being sick is too hard.

Caryn Hartglass: <laughs>

Rob Poe: Being sick is too hard, and I didn’t find it difficult.  Actually, I mean, the first week I did, to be honest.  I said “there’s no way I can do this.” But I was going through the whole withdrawal thing. And it’s like going off caffeine or cigarettes or drugs. You know, you feel horrible in the beginning, but after a while you start feeling really good. And that’s what happened to me.

Caryn Hartglass: Yeah, we were talking about vitality, I think it was last week.  And when people continue to eat foods that are difficult on the body, at some point the body just gives up and says, “I can’t work on purging this stuff, it’s.. there’s only a limit to what I can do.” And so it just lets it accumulate. And one way or another, we fall apart.  But then, when you stop taking in the toxins, and you are feeding your body with cleansing foods, and nutritious foods, the body is allowed to start cleaning out.  And it can be really uncomfortable during that initial cleaning phase.

Rob Poe:  Oh, yeah, you want to sleep a lot.  You want to stay in bed. You’re tired.

Caryn Hartglass: Hydrate. Hydrate.

Rob Poe: Hydrate. But it’s definitely worth it.  It’s… I feel fantastic.

Caryn Hartglass:  Now, can I ask you how old you are?

Rob Poe: Nope.

Caryn Hartglass: No? <laughs> Cause you look…

Rob Poe: <laughs> I keep that a secret.

Caryn Hartglass: Okay, well you look pretty good.

Rob Poe: Thank you!

Caryn Hartglass: I’m assuming.  I mean, I know that you’ve got to be older than a certain age and most people I know that are older than that certain age don’t look as good as you.

Rob Poe: Is it because of the music I like? Is that it? <laughs>

Caryn Hartglass: I think it’s the vegetables!  <sings> My favorite vegetables… <end singing>

Rob Poe: Well, you know, all my life I thought I was eating healthy.  For some reason, I got into reading books when I was sixteen years old about diet, nutrition, vitamins.  And I thought I had a healthy diet.  I thought what the government guidelines tell you to eat was healthy.

Caryn Hartglass: <laughs> Yes, scary.

Rob Poe: It’s pretty scary.

Caryn Hartglass: So what kind of diet were you on?

Rob Poe: I was eating low fat, chicken, low fat cheeses, and whole grain breads.  That kind of thing.  But, I found out that I don’t do well with grains, so I try to avoid grains.

Caryn Hartglass: Yeah, it’s hard for people to realize that that is very inflammatory and oftentimes leads to different forms of arthritis and lupus, like you said.  And all the illnesses that are lumped into autoimmune diseases – there are so many of them, and I think that’s one reason why people don’t realize that food is really the cause of all of them.  Because when we see things that manifest themselves so differently, we think that they are different, but they’re really the same thing.  It’s just… Now there are theories about how autoimmune diseases are caused and my understanding in very simple layman terms is you get these proteins that are really hard to digest in your gut.  And your gut wall somehow gets compromised and these undigested proteins get into your blood stream and then your body creates these anti-proteins to deal with them and then they kind of mutate and become these things that will in one way or another will wreak havoc either in a joint or with multiple sclerosis. It will cause scarring on the myelin, the coating on the nerves.  And it’s just fascinating.  You can get asthma and all kinds of different rashes on your skin.

Rob Poe: Well that was one of my symptoms.  Asthma.

Caryn Hartglass: Fatigue, of course. That mysterious symptom Fatigue.  Everybody’s tired.  How do you pinpoint what it is?

Rob Poe: It’s amazing. You can turn all of that around just by changing your diet. It’s unbelievable.

Caryn Hartglass: And how long did it take for you?

Rob Poe: I went back to my original doctor about two months after following a high micronutrient diet, and about two months later he said, “I can’t believe this.  I’ve never seen anything like this.”  He says, “Your blood work is perfect.”

Caryn Hartglass: Wow.

Rob Poe: My cholesterol went down, my ANA numbers – the antibody numbers, all those rheumatoid markers, everything went down.  It was amazing.  Amazing!  And that’s why I created the Broccoli Rob show.  To tell people.

Caryn Hartglass: Okay, now, let’s get into that.  So what is the Broccoli Rob show?

Rob Poe: Well, I’ve been a musician all my life, as you probably know.  I toured Europe with the Glenn Miller Orchestra.  I was the lead vocalist for them.  I did some television shows – Star Search, things like that.  I had songs on the radio.  And I always wanted to… Well, people ask me, “Why don’t you do a kid show or something?” And I never had anything, I felt, to offer.  I didn’t want to go out and sing nursery rhymes and that kind of thing.  But, it just hit me one morning.  I was lying in bed and I said, “You know what?  I should spread the word about healthy eating to children!”  They don’t know. Maybe their parents told them, but if they could identify with like a modern day Popeye.  Maybe they would eat more fruits and vegetables.  I don’t even know if Popeye’s on television anymore.

Caryn Hartglass: I don’t know, but he certainly had it right.

Rob Poe: He had it right with the spinach.

Caryn Hartglass:  <singing> I’m strong to the finish, cause I eat my spinach. <end singing>

Rob Poe: It was just canned – he needed to eat some fresh…

Caryn Hartglass: Fresh, okay, but…

Rob Poe: But it worked for Popeye.

Caryn Hartglass: Right.

Rob Poe: But anyway, no I… So, I’ve been writing songs that children could understand about healthy eating.

Caryn Hartglass: I love the name Broccoli Rob. So when we eat broccoli rabe, the food, R-A-B-E, I think it is, right?

Rob Poe:  Yes, R-A-B-E.

Caryn Hartglass: R-A-B-E, right.  It’s a delicious vegetable.  It’s a very bitter green.  Probably not as popular with kids, cause it’s so bitter, unless they have a developed palate. But it’s a great food and I love that you’re Broccoli Rob. <laughs> Okay, so you’ve been around a variety of schools, this is great for the young, kindergarten through what age?

Rob Poe: It’s generally kindergarten through 5th grade.

Caryn Hartglass: And what do you do during the show?

Rob Poe: Oh, man, I have costume changes, I have different characters… I actually studied martial arts for about twelve, thirteen years, and I have a character in the show where I do a little karate demonstration and the character’s name is Bruce Leek.

Caryn Hartglass: <laughs> Bruce Leek!

Rob Poe: The kids don’t know Bruce Lee, but when the teachers are attending the show, they get a kick out of it as well.  They get the humor.

Caryn Hartglass: So they get to see that vegetables are fun, vegetables are strong.  And the message that vegetables are good for you doesn’t really play well, cause one of the things that children are learning as they are becoming adults, is how to formulate their own opinions and they kind of want to push the boundaries and be contrary.  So there’s a way – you have to trick them into making the right choices.

Rob Poe: Right, they’re thinking, “Well, if this made Broccoli Rob healthy and strong, it may help me too.”  In fact, I get letters from parents and the kids!  The teachers will have the kids sit down and they write a whole bunch of letters and draw pictures and send them to me, and it’s amazing.  One of them actually brought tears to my eyes.  A parent sent me an email after her child saw the show and she told me her child had autism.  And she said she’s been trying to get her child to eat more salads, and her child wouldn’t touch the salads.  She said after she saw that show, she went home and had five bowls of salad.  And when I heard that… first I get the email and I’m thinking, “Oh, no, what did I do?  Did I say something wrong?  Did I upset a parent?  Tell them…”  But in the show I don’t tell people, “Don’t eat meat, Don’t do this, Don’t do that.”  I just say, “Eat more fruits and vegetables.”  I don’t want to upset anybody or anything like that, but on a show like this I’ll tell you what I really feel about meat.

Caryn Hartglass: Okay, we’ll get to that in just a moment.  When we talk about autism specifically, one of the symptoms is that the children typically don’t want to eat, or they don’t want to eat the right things, and really picky eaters.  And a certain number of them have been healed or cured or improved by eliminating wheat and dairy.  There’s this diet that’s specifically geared towards eliminating wheat and dairy and a lot of autistic children have found relief from it.  It doesn’t work with all of them, and I’m not sure exactly why that is, but it has helped.  And it’s really hard when a parent wants to do that because the child is such a picky eater and you take away some of their favorite foods.  So, to find a way, and maybe you’ve got it where you’ve got this fun way to get even the pickiest of eaters wanting to eat salad. <laughter> That’s genius!

Rob Poe: I hope so. I hope it works with more. More children.  But really, it has to come from the parents too. I mean, the parents are laying out the food for the children, so they need to be aware of this.

Caryn Hartglass: How many times have you heard parents say, “I don’t know why my kids eat all the junk food that they do.” And then you look in their cabinets.  Well, where’s the junk food coming from?  You’re buying it and you’re eating it.

Rob Poe:  Right.  It’s like the parents smoking cigarettes saying, “Don’t smoke.”

Caryn Hartglass:  Yeah. “Do as I say, not as I do” does not go very far.  All right, let’s talk about your anger now.

Rob Poe: Oh, my anger.

Caryn Hartglass: So you were telling me that you were sharing your revelations with food with some friends and you don’t always get the response that you would like.

Rob Poe:  Well, you really can’t change people’s… maybe you can, but you can’t change everybody’s mind.  And I was having a discussion with somebody about eating healthy and their feeling was no matter what you eat, no matter what you do, your genes are dictating how your health is going to be. Has nothing to do with what you put in your body.

Caryn Hartglass: Of course, those are the G-E-N-E-S genes, not the Levi blue jeans. <laughter>

Rob Poe: That’s right.

Caryn Hartglass: Well, we hear that all the time and you have to ask yourself why do people believe that and they believe it because that’s what they’ve been told to believe.  The last fifty years or so, as we’ve been discovering DNA and chromosomes and genes and we’re trying to figure out what they’re good for and what they do.  We’ve been sort of learning about genes.  But I think what we’re learning now is the genes are there, but they don’t express themselves unless given the right opportunity.  And if you keep yourself on a diet like Dr. Fuhrman recommends, loaded with nutrient-dense plant foods and minimal or little junk, your genes just don’t express themselves.  But your friends don’t believe that when you tell them.

Rob Poe: There’s new studies coming out about that.  No, they don’t believe it, and I understand.  We live in a society where we’re not taught too much about eating healthy.  And what they tell you is healthy may not really be healthy.

Caryn Hartglass: Now, when you get these gigs in the school, who gets you to come?  Who initiates that?

Rob Poe: The PTA.  The PTA.  They hear about it through other schools, or through my website, they’ll do a search.  I’m also registered with BOCES, the Arts in Education catalog in different counties.

Caryn Hartglass: Now, is that just a New York program, or is that outside New York?

Rob Poe: It’s county to county. It’s Westchester, Putnam, Suffolk, Nassau… so, I’m registered in that catalog.  The parents or the teachers or a principal will go into this catalog and say, “I want to find a health based program” and my show pops up.

Caryn Hartglass: And you have a website?

Rob Poe:  I have a website: TheBroccoliRobShow.com

Caryn Hartglass: TheBroccoliRobShow.  But that’s Broccoli with an R-O-B “Rob”, right?  Not “rabe” R-A-B-E like the luscious, bitter broccoli vegetable with a little garlic and lemon juice that’s so good and I could really enjoy some right now.

Rob Poe: Right, right. Sounds great.

Caryn Hartglass: No, you’re The Broccoli R-O-B Show.

Rob Poe: Or BroccoliRobShow.com.  Either one will work.

Caryn Hartglass: Oh! Very clever you have both!

Rob Poe: I have both. I keep myself covered.

Caryn Hartglass: That’s right. Well, it makes me think of myself because I was talking about the Swingin’ Gourmets earlier.  And the Swingin’ ends in an I-N-Apostrophe.  We dropped the G.  And we got the SwinginGourmets.com.

Rob Poe: It’s country. It’s very country.

Caryn Hartglass:  It is, it’s whatever you want it to be.  But, the Swingin’ Gourmets, it just has one G in the middle: SwinginGourmets.com.  And then when we were noted in the San Francisco Chronicle as one of their Best Picks when we were doing a show out in April in the San Francisco area, they spelled it wrong and did SwingingGourmets – two G’s in the middle – and immediately I bought that domain and had it forwarded to our website.  You have to have yourselves covered.

Rob Poe:  Right, that’s smart. Right.

Caryn Hartglass: So, TheBroccoliRobShow and BroccoliRobShow, either way gets you there.

Rob Poe: Right.

Caryn Hartglass: Because I imagine parents out there, any of you that are out there, that want something fun… And you’re probably frustrated because your kids aren’t learning much about healthy diets and fruits and vegetables… Or maybe you’re getting your kids interested but they’re so pressured by all their friends who are eating all the junk, here’s a great thing!  Get this Broccoli Rob Show into your school, and get your kids wanting to eat five bowls of salad when they come home! <laughter> Right?

Rob Poe: It seems like it’s working.

Caryn Hartglass: Good.  Now, can we get a taste? Can we get a little sample? Do you think you could do a song for us?

Rob Poe:  Well, you know what’s funny?  On my regular music CD I still perform my original music for adults.  I had a song on my last CD and it was a song about eating healthy, taking care of yourself.  But it’s really a love song in disguise.

Caryn Hartglass:  Mmmm.  Well isn’t that what it’s all about?  Taking care of yourself is really a love song, or a love action you can do for yourself and for those who care about you.

Rob Poe: Yes, right.  And you can get that CD on CD Baby or my website RobertPoeMusic.com.

Caryn Hartglass: Robert Poe.  “Poe” as in Edgar Allen.  Robert P-O-E dot com.

Rob Poe:  RobertPoeMusic.com

Caryn Hartglass:  RobertPoeMusic.com.

Rob Poe: RobertPoeMusic.com, RobertPoe.net.  I don’t want to confuse everybody with all these websites.

Caryn Hartglass: Right, but RobertPoeMusic.com.  So let’s hear it!

Rob Poe: <singing>

I’m eating my greens

No more candy in between

Cause you’re sweet enough, it’s true.

 

I’m getting strong.

I want to live for real long,

I want to be around for you.

 

Well you’re my reason for this good eatin’

And working out every day.

Make juice concoctions will rid my toxins

Baby, I’ve changed my ways.

 

I’m eating my greens

And getting hard and lean.

It’s something everybody should do.

 

I want to be strong,

Yes, I want to live real long

I want to be around for you.

I want to be around for you.

Yes, I want to be around for you.

 

<end singing>

Caryn Hartglass: Woohoo!  I love it!

Rob Poe: But that’s not in the kids’ show.  That’s just on my regular CD.

Caryn Hartglass:  Oh, I love it.  That’s really nice.

Rob Poe:  Thank you.

Caryn Hartglass: You have a fine voice there, yes.

Rob Poe: Yeah, on the kids’ show, I’m doing tunes like:

<singing>

Choo Choo!  Choo Choo!

Riding on the Veggie Train.

Choo Choo!

<end singing>

Caryn Hartglass: <laughter> That’s awesome!  Who loved that?  I loved that and I want to know if you loved it.  You can send me a message at info@realmeals.org and let me know what you think of Rob Poe and then I’ll tell him.  Or you can just go right to his website and tell him yourself.  But that was really something.  More people need to be singing about greens!

Rob Poe:  About greens.

Caryn Hartglass: All of us need to do our part.  Because personally, okay you’re a musician, you’re an artist, and you’re using what you do to tell the world what you’re passionate about.  We all should be doing that.  And I really believe in the arts.  I think that’s one of the best ways to get any kind of message out.  The arts have been used forever.  People that have had political issues over time, they put messages in their paintings, they put messages in their music, in order to get people to think about it.

Rob Poe: Right.

Caryn Hartglass:  And we kind of need a new movement.  During the Civil Rights era we had that whole folk music thing that started and everybody was singing about war and peace.  Now it’s time for everybody to be singing about foods, green food, broccoli rabe, kale…

Rob Poe:  Well, The Swingin’ Gourmets should meet Broccoli Rob and do a live show soon.

Caryn Hartglass: Well, we absolutely will.  That’s really good.  Okay so, we just have five, six minutes left.  And, anything else you’re angry about, you want to talk about?

Rob Poe:  Well…

Caryn Hartglass: You’re not really an angry guy.

Rob Poe:  No, I’m not angry.  I’m not angry.  I just… when you’re trying to do something good for yourself and good for other people, and then you have people telling you, “No, that healthy eating – that’s nonsense.  I’m just going to eat whatever I want to eat, and I’ll be fine.  It’s in my genes. Whatever.”  That makes me a little angry, but…

Caryn Hartglass: Well, fortunately, we have the internet now, and people who are interested in this information for one reason or another.  Either they’re really ill and their doctors have not provided any help, and they’re looking for help, or they just want to feel healthier and they’re starting to learn.  And there’s a lot of different websites, there are doctors and nutritionists and health coaches and all kinds of opportunities for people to learn and discover what can get them feeling better and feeling healthy, and all that’s great.  But I think we need as many avenues as we possibly can.  I love all the different religious versions, like there’s the Christian Veg, the Jewish Veg, and I believe there’s Muslim groups that are promoting vegetarian, cruelty-free healthy diets.  So, there’s the religious contingent, there’s all different contingents that appeal to different demographics.  And I think you and me, we’re moving the art world and the music world and what better way to do it, with some fun songs.  To make it fun!  Okay, we know the food’s great.  We know that now.  There are just a gazillion cookbooks, and there are more and more restaurants…

Rob Poe: And it tastes great.

Caryn Hartglass: It tastes great.

Rob Poe: It tastes better than…  If I see a slice of pizza sitting there, I know how horrible I’m going to feel if I eat that pizza.  And I’ve taken bites of that pizza since I’ve been eating healthy, and I feel horrible.  I don’t sleep well, my hands get inflamed, my joints ache.  Symptoms start coming back.  It’s not worth it.

Caryn Hartglass:  Right.

Rob Poe: It’s not worth it.  It’s just… And you know what?  Really?  All right, I’m angry.  Here we go.  You know what really bothers me?  When you tell people, and they’re aware of it and they know, that eating healthy is good.  But they don’t do anything about it.  They don’t realize how many people their ill health will affect.  They don’t realize that if I have a heart attack, who’s going to be coming to the hospital?  People have to come to the hospital.  I may wind up in a wheel chair.  Someone’s going to be inconvenienced by wheeling me around and everything.  If you already… All right, it’s one thing if you don’t know that you can heart attack-proof yourself.  But if you know that, and you’re not doing anything about it, I think it’s selfish.  It’s really selfish.  Because you’re going to affect and hurt a lot of people.  So that’s what I’m angry about.

Caryn Hartglass:  Okay, well you’ve heard it here.  Rob Poe is angry and he’s doing something about it.  He’s got this really fun Broccoli Rob show, which is a happy, a happy show.  Right?  And on your website, can we see little glimpses of what the show is about?

Rob Poe: Yes, there’s a little news piece that Verizon FiOS did on the show.  There’s a little video of the very first show I ever did.  It was videotaped and I put it up on there.  I don’t like the costume I’m in, but things evolve.

Caryn Hartglass:  Yeah, well, you probably need a new video to put up there.

Rob Poe: Yes.

Caryn Hartglass:  Yeah, we’ll have to work on that one.  Okay, and favorite foods before we leave.  I like to leave with a good taste in people’s mouths.  Broccoli rabe?

Rob Poe: <laughs> I love making a huge salad.  Broccoli rabe.  I love making a huge salad with nuts and seeds and tomatoes and cucumbers and celery.  And then making a nut based dressing.

Caryn Hartglass:  Mmm-hmm.  Nut butter?

Rob Poe: Yeah.

Caryn Hartglass: Yeah.  That’s the best.

Rob Poe:  Cashew nuts, some orange, and sesame.  It’s delicious.

Caryn Hartglass:  Mmm-hmmm.  You know?  I’m sorry, but all those pizza fans out there… when you learn to love this food, the salad, I mean, pizza doesn’t hold a candle.

Rob Poe: That’s right.

Caryn Hartglass: It doesn’t fill you up.  It’s just salty, oily and believe it or not, it’s not good.  When you clean up and your taste buds all of a sudden start working, you don’t know what you can taste!

Rob Poe:  Oh, yeah!  If I have something like we mentioned pizza, a bite of pizza.  It’s so salty!  Because my taste buds have changed since I’ve been eating healthy and it just doesn’t taste good.

Caryn Hartglass: Well, I love talking to individuals about what food has done for them.  And it certainly has… I don’t remember you before, what you looked like, but you’re looking really good now.

Rob Poe:  Thanks.  I think I dropped about forty pounds.

Caryn Hartglass: Not bad.  Right?  Isn’t it amazing?  And probably just without even thinking about it.  Just eating different foods.

Rob Poe:  I always tell people, don’t think about losing weight.  Just think about getting healthy, and losing weight will be a byproduct of eating healthy.

Caryn Hartglass:  It’s a bonus!  Yeah, I love that.  Okay, well, thank you for joining me on It’s All About Food.  Okay, he’s showing me his muscles here in the studio and he’s looking damn good.  It’s all in the greens.  You too can benefit inside and out and start looking better, and looking younger and feeling great.  I like to say we’re not getting older, we’re getting better and only kale can do that… and maybe broccoli rabe. <laughs>  Okay, we’re going to take a quick break and then we’re going to be back with Rory Freedman the co-author of Skinny Bitch, who’s got a new book out called Beg.  We’ll be right back.

Transcribed by Andrea Jensen, 2/11/2014

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